Articles | Volume 14, issue 2
https://doi.org/10.5194/gi-14-423-2025
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The multi scenarios applicability of GNSS differential positioning technology in the remeasurement of observatory azimuth in China
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AR by Yufei He on behalf of the Authors (16 Nov 2025)
This contribution examines good ways to control the azimuth of a magnetic observatory reference direction, materialized by the reference pillar and a target, usually about 200m distant.
The first method is astronomical, with detailed explanations given about the use of Polaris star. The use of te Sun is mentioned in passing only once.
The second method refers to differential GPS, and a special attention is addressed to situations as to how deploy the two GPS receptors on their tripod with respect to the reference pillar and the target.
The authors clearly favor the GPS method (L13) and provide reasons for this:
- Does not require clear sky's and visible celestial body
- Automated calculations
- No timing errors
- No realtime results
However, in my opinion the choice of Polaris in the astronomical method is unfair when doing a competing assessment; the choice of the Sun as the star would bring forward the many advantages of the Sunshot astronomical method especially if a sunshot computer is used, such as the flm5 from RMI (https://www.meteo.be/en/products-and-services/products/flm):
- No need for costly GPS equipment, the observatory DIflux theodolite is sufficient
- No need for two additional GPS stations and tripods installation and alignment
- Automated realtime calculation: the flm5 computes the azimuth of the Sun for any place and time on Earth
- No timing errors with GPS clocks
The real advantage of the GPS is that no celestial body must be visible; it works in cloudy weather. But be aware that the azimuth control is supposed to happen every 10 years, which gives plenty of time for sunshine to materialize.
Then there is the problem of being able to point at the Sun from inside the absolute hut where the reference pillar is rooted. Often windows to the East and West in the hut walls will have been planned at building time so that the Sun is visible at sunrise and/or at sunset, optimal for a sunshot. If not, an external tripod may be installed with view on target and reference pillar.
Considering the precision of both methods, I would point the authors to a seminal paper with detailed comparisons of the methods: "Comparison of the reference mark azimuth determination methods by Danijel Sugar et al., Ann. of Geoph., 55, 6 2012" where the sunshot method is shown to give the required accuracy.
In short, I am unhappy with the insistance of the authors to favor a complicated and costly method (GPS) over a simple and as or more precise one (Sunshot). In the cash strapped environment of magnetic observatories, it should be explained in the text that the same or better accuracy can be obtained using the standard equipment of an observatory.
Line indexed comments:
L14: I would remove this sentence as it is not true
L40 and L46: D is the angle between TN and magnetic meridian. Angle between TN an the line connecting...
L73: this is not true, many new observatories nowadays use astronomy for target azimuth measurement
L86: not true, the Sun is most widely adopted
L93: this is exaggerating the difficulty a lot
L96: Figure 2 is very confusing and possibly wrong. What about S and P?
L106 and L110: It would be good to have a § discussing how much degradation in accuracy we have
L177 and 179: angel -> angle