Articles | Volume 14, issue 2
https://doi.org/10.5194/gi-14-311-2025
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Towards ice core sampling by subsea robotic vehicles
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- Final revised paper (published on 10 Nov 2025)
- Preprint (discussion started on 29 Nov 2024)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3358', Anonymous Referee #1, 23 Mar 2025
- AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Christian Katlein, 28 Jul 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3358', James Veale, 15 May 2025
- AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Christian Katlein, 28 Jul 2025
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AR by Christian Katlein on behalf of the Authors (29 Jul 2025)
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ED: Publish as is (07 Aug 2025) by David Barclay
AR by Christian Katlein on behalf of the Authors (07 Aug 2025)
Katlein describes initial coring results from attaching two ice core hand auger drill systems to manipulator arm. He shows that core retrieval can be successful and that a key aspect is keeping the coring axis stable. This is very preliminary work and is a first step towards subsea ice coring.
I found the title to be misleading, "Towards ice core sampling by subsea robotic vehicles" - there is nothing "subsea" in the maunscript. The tests are done on a workbench with no water. A more accurate title would be "autonomous" rather than "subsea" as the manipulator arm could be mounted anywhere - on ice, in water, on the moon (mixed ice/rock), etc. Given the interest in coring on the moon, Mars, and ice moons, I'm surprised that work doesn't already exist in this area, although I admit that I am unfamiliar with it. (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00597-z)
The manuscript is missing two key aspects. First, the ice core drill tests should be done in temperate ice such that meltwater can affect the coring. Mechanical coring in temperate ice is much more challenging than in cold ice. Tests should be easily performed and will allow complications of binding to be analyzed.
Second, the description of why subsea drilling is of interest should be greatly expanded. What is the science motivation for this? AWI is full of glaciologists of all types and I'm sure it would take little coaxing to help write a compelling introduction that addresses the sea ice, ice shelf, and iceberg scientific questions that would be addressed with subsea cores.
I would also like to a discussion of the challenges in stabilizing coring in a subsea environment. Given the identified importance of keeping the coring axis unchanged, doing so with a subsea vehicle will be particularly challenging. This work should discuss a path forward for that aspect (i.e. he doesnt' need to do, but he should talk about it).
With the additions of a more complete scientific introduction and the temperature ice tests (and their implications), this work will a nice contribution and starting point for subsea ice coring.
A few other notes:
The amount of references is lacking with only 12. In addition to increasing the scientific motivation, I encourage reading the planetary literature since autonomous ice coring is a significant activity.